By Lambert Strether of Corrente.
“A nation,” he heard himself say, “consists of its legal guidelines. A nation doesn’t encompass its state of affairs at a given time. If a person’s morals are situational, that particular person is with out morals. If a nation’s legal guidelines are situational, that nation has no legal guidelines, and shortly isn’t a nation.” –Milgrim, Spook Nation (William Gibson)
Of all of the unknown creatures engendered in the course of the interregnum between Trump’s election and his inauguration, the strangest of all should be DOGE[1] (the Division of Authorities Effectivity): No person (together with Grok) appears to know what it’s! I’m not fully clear what meaning for “protecting” The Republic, however it may’t imply something good, as I’ll focus on briefly within the Conclusion to the publish.
DOGE’s origin story begins on August 19, on the marketing campaign path:
Requested if he would contemplate naming Musk to an advisory position or cupboard job, Trump mentioned he would. “He’s a really good man. I definitely would, if he would do it, I definitely would. He’s an excellent man,” Trump mentioned.
Elon[2] responded with the next AI slop publish:
I’m keen to serve pic.twitter.com/BJhGbcA2e0
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) August 20, 2024
Trump vollyed again on September 5:
Talking on the Financial Membership of New York on Sept. 5, Trump restated his help for the digital asset [sic] trade.
Trump mentioned that, if elected, he would eradicate a minimal of ten outdated rules for one new regulation… Trump went on to thank Tesla CEO Elon Musk for his endorsement including, “I’ll create a authorities effectivity fee tasked with conducting a whole monetary and efficiency audit of the complete federal authorities, making suggestions for drastic reforms.”… “Elon, as a result of he isn’t very busy, has agreed to go that activity pressure. If he has the time he’s a very good one to do it and he has agreed to do it.”
To which Elon responded:
I stay up for serving America if the chance arises.
No pay, no title, no recognition is required. https://t.co/5PSNtjBQn7
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 5, 2024
(It’s value noting that at its inception, some thought-about the DOGE proposal a jape, because it boosted the DOGE coin, Elon’s favourite cryptocurrency.)
And right here is the official announcement, on November 12:
President-elect Donald Trump named tech billionaire Elon Musk and conservative activist Vivek Ramaswamy[3] on Tuesday to go up a brand new Division of Authorities Effectivity, fulfilling a marketing campaign pledge to offer Musk sweeping oversight of presidency spending.
Trump mentioned Tuesday that the brand new division would exist ‘exterior of Authorities,’ giving recommendation to these within the White Home about overhauling federal companies. The association would even be more likely to permit Musk and Ramaswamy to proceed working within the non-public sector and serve with out Senate approval.
(A “division” that exists “exterior of Authorities” is lots like a fish that swims “exterior of water.”)
Lastly, on November 20, Elon and Ramaswamy collectively penned an Opinion column within the Wall Avenue Journal, “Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy: The DOGE Plan to Reform Authorities, which is properly value a learn, however their plans are exterior the scope of this publish.
Moderately, I’ll first present DOGE’s extraordinarily ill-defined nature, as proven by media protection; then I’ll have a look at actions undertaken by DOGE; I’ll then ask Grok — who higher positioned to “know”? — below what authority such actions will be taken; after which conclude.
DOGE’s Sick-Outlined Nature, As Proven by Press Protection
On this part, I’ve curated — artisanally, I hasten so as to add — hyperlinks to articles during which the press struggles to call what kind of enity DOGE is, from November 12 as much as the current.
11/12/2024, WaPo: “a brand new fee”; 11/12/2024, WaPo: ” a brand new authorities spending fee; 11/12/2024, The Hill, “an advisory group”; 11/13/2024, Vox: “presidential advisory fee or activity pressure”; 11/13/2024, MSNBC, “quasi-governmental group”; 11/13/2024, Fortune: “a newly created entity ….not an actual division”; 11/13/2024, CBT Information: “the division will function exterior of conventional authorities buildings”; 11/14/2024, Unbiased, “the brand new workplace”; 11/14/2024, The Register: “a fee in every part however title”; 11/14/2024, CBS: “not an official authorities division”; 11/21/2024, Related Press: “nascent group”; 11/22/2025, Politico: “an advisory fee exterior authorities”; 11/24/2024, WaPo: “an advisory panel”; 12/5/2025, Roll Name, “unofficial advisory panel”; 12/5/2024, Each day Mail: “company”; 12/6/2024, Fortune: “advisory board”; 12/6/2024, Gibson Dunn: “an entity”; 12/6/2024, CNN: “advisory board”; 1/6/2025, Forbes: “an advisory fee”; 1/7/2025, Scientific American: “extra an advisory group, actually”; 1/7/2025, The Hill: “mythological… pure authorized fiction”; 1/8/2025, CBS: “group… not an official federal division”; 1/8/2025, FOX: “a blue-ribbon committee”; 1/9/2025, NBC: “budget-cutting effort”; 1/9/2025, Frequent Desires: “so-called Division”; 1/9/2025, CNBC: “a brand new advisory physique”; 1/10/2025, Each day Mail: “a personal entity”; 1/10/2025, Reuters: “the division”; 1/10/2024, @doge_eth_gov: ” a group run challenge and is not any manner related to any authorities company”; and 1/11/2025, Decrypt: “a brand new U.S. authorities initiative.”
And the next take DOGE’s nature as fully unproblematic, and easily use the acronym: 12/24/2024, Each day Mail; 1/3/2024, Accountable Statecraft; 1/7/2025, Cato Institute; 1/10/2025, The New Republic.
Nonetheless, I’d submit {that a} time period with as a lot slop as proven right here can’t be handled as unproblematic: A “group,” for instance, generally refers to an NGO, whichi is just not the identical as a fee, and a fee is just not the identical because the far more casual panel.
So, as I mentioned within the introduction: No person is aware of what DOGE is. In consequence, no person is aware of what authorities DOGE has, or why.
Present Actions Undertaken by DOGE
Regardless of its ill-defined nature, the Senate has already arrange a DOGE caucus below Jodi Ernst, and the Home has arrange subcommittee headed by Marjorie Taylor Inexperienced. Extra apparently, or problematically, DOGE is hiring:
On its X account Monday, DOGE introduced it’s presently recruiting a “very small quantity” of full-time salaried software program and information safety engineers. The account additionally posted on Dec. 27 that it plans to rent for full-time human assets, IT and finance positions.
“If , please DM us just a few bullet factors demonstrating distinctive capability, and your mobile phone quantity,” the publish reads.
DOGE additionally has workplace house:
The newly minted Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE) already has 50 workers working in Washington, D.C., sources confirmed to the Washington Publish.
Understanding of SpaceX’s places of work, the brand new workers are already onerous at work inspecting totally different areas to reduce federal spending.
DOGE can also be sending out peronnel to interview Federal officers:
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s aides with the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE) have spoken with staffers at greater than a dozen federal companies to start preliminary interviews, The Washington Publish reported on Friday.
The companies embody the Treasury Division, the Inside Income Service, Homeland Safety, Veterans Affairs, and Well being and Human Companies, the newspaper mentioned, citing 4 folks acquainted with the matter.
… Musk and Ramaswamy have stepped up hiring for DOGE, with greater than 50 staffers already began understanding of the places of work of SpaceX, which Musk owns, The Washington Publish reported. DOGE goals to have near 100 staffers in place by Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20, based on the report.
Nicely and good. However below what authority does an “entity” like DOGE minimize a payroll test, or signal an settlement for using workplace house?[4] To search out out, I requested Elon’s slave pet AI, Grok[5].
What Elon Musk’s Grok Says About Elon Musk’s DOGE
As a result of Grok is so very prolix, I’ve edited down the exchanges. The total transcript is in Appendix C.
Is DOGE (the Division of Governmental Effectivity) a 501(c)(3) non-profit group?
In keeping with posts on X, it seems that DOGE, the Division of Governmental Effectivity, is just not presently structured as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit group. Latest discussions point out that there was consideration by high officers to include DOGE as an exterior entity or nonprofit, nevertheless it appears unlikely at this level. Subsequently, based mostly on the out there data, DOGE doesn’t maintain the standing of a 501(c)(3) non-profit group.
How is DOGE structured?
The construction of the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE) seems to be fairly fluid and never absolutely formalized as of January 2025.
Does DOGE have a payroll?
DOGE didn’t have a payroll in its early levels, because it sought volunteers keen to work with out compensation.
As of early January 2025, DOGE is starting to ascertain a payroll for a “very small quantity” of full-time salaried positions, however specifics on how in depth this payroll will likely be or the compensation particulars are usually not clear from the out there sources.
Who indicators DOGE’s payroll checks?
Based mostly on the data out there, the specifics relating to who indicators the payroll checks for the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE) are usually not explicitly detailed.
Who approved DOGE to make use of SpaceX workplace house? If there’s a rental settlement, who signed it on DOGE’s behalf?
The authorization for DOGE to make use of SpaceX workplace house will be inferred from the context….
Is DOGE topic to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA)
Based mostly on the out there data, the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE), as structured, is certainly topic to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA).
Grok’s output agrees with my very own studying (listed within the earlier part). So what now we have right here is an entity — whose brokers are swanning about Washington, DC, interviewing civil servants — that isn’t a non-profit, at greatest has a “fluid” construction, emits paychecks signed by an individual or individuals unknown, and which occupies workplace house whose proprietor will be at greatest “inferred.” Doesn’t that appear a bit odd?
Conclusion
As we would anticipate, Elon pledged “most transparency” in his new DOGE position, so it comes as no shock that there’s no transparency in any respect, as proven by Grok’s solutions to my questions. So no surprise CREW is suing… properly, they’ll’t sue DOGE, as a result of no person is aware of what DOGE is, however they have sued DOGE’s potential interlocutors:
In December 2024, CREW requested data from 62 authorities companies, company elements, and company inspectors common pertaining to any communications that Musk, Ramaswamy, or different people reportedly concerned in DOGE, Antonio Gracias, William (Invoice) McGinley and Steve Davis, had with company workers, in addition to any communications between the companies and any people performing on on their behalves. The requests additionally search data pertaining to anybody who has an affiliation with DOGE or the so-called “Delivering Excellent Authorities Effectivity” Caucus, a gaggle established inside Congress which plans to collaborate with DOGE. The companies CREW requested data from embody the Division of Homeland Safety, Division of Protection, Division of Well being and Human Companies, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, FEMA, the EPA, the FDA, the IRS and others.
Solely Congress has the authority to create a brand new federal company, and it’s unclear what ethics and transparency requirements, if any, Musk, Ramaswamy and others affiliated with DOGE are being held to.
Word that if certainly DOGE is topic to FACA, as Grok claims it’s (and mega-law agency Gibson-Dunn agrees) then there are requirements to which DOGE should adhere, and isn’t. We checked out FACA extensively in our investigations of CDC’s HICPAC. Specifically:
The Federal Advisory Committee Act requires advisory committees to make out there for public inspection written advisory committee paperwork, together with pre-decisional supplies resembling drafts, working papers and research.
So I and lots of others would very very similar to to see the “pre-decisional supplies” that DOGE created earlier than its brokers fanned out throughout the Federal authorities.
Right here, nevertheless, is what I discovered most worrisome. Below what authority is DOGE renting workplace house, signing payroll checks, and interviewing civil servants? Actually no institutional authority, as now we have seen. The one sort of authority below which DOGE is working, then, is “charismatic authority,” outlined as follows[6]:
Charismatic authority is among the classifications of authority that make up sociologist Max Weber’s tripartite classification of authority, alongside conventional authority and rational-legal authority.
Charismatic authority was outlined by Weber as: “resting on devotion to the distinctive sanctity, heroism or exemplary character of a person individual, and of the normative patterns or order revealed or ordained by him.”
The private qualities of the person are central to the idea of charismatic authority and it’s the particular person’s actual or perceived elevation above ‘regular’ folks that fuels different peoples’ acceptance of their authority. Some commentators recommend that narcissism is a core trait in charismatic leaders.
Charismatic authority is an attention-grabbing case as a result of its success is just not reliant on exterior formal buildings or norms, as is the case with the opposite two types of authority. Due to this, energy buildings that depend on charismatic leaders to succeed might dissolve ought to the chief die or depart
In different phrases, DOGE is ready to do what it does based mostly on the charismatic authority of 1 man: Elon.
Historical past ought to train us to be very leery of extra-Constitutional entities, parallel to current establishments, and pushed by the charismatic authority of a single particular person. That’s dangerously near fuhrerprinzip, and even when Trump straightens out Elon’s DOGE mess with one of many the 100+ government orders he’s going to roll out on his first day in workplace, DOGE as it’s at the moment has already set a horrible, horrible precedent.
NOTES
[1] Not the DOGE Inc. to be present in Dun and Bradsteet, doing enterprise as Spring Backyard Flower Store in San Antonio, TX.
[2] I’m going to name Elon Musk “Elon,” regardless that my common apply can be “Musk,” as a result of Elon’s throughout my timeline like an inexpensive swimsuit.
[3] Ramaswamy criticized the deplorable features of American tradition on December 28:
The rationale high tech firms usually rent foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” People isn’t due to an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & mistaken rationalization). A key a part of it comes all the way down to the c-word: tradition. Powerful questions demand powerful solutions & if…
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) December 26, 2024
Since then, he’s been curiously silent, presumably as a result of Susie Wiles gagged him.
[4] And who will get sued if some hapless pedestrian will get run over by a DOGE staffer?
[5] I absolutely anticipate a lot of the textual content emitted by Grok to be confirmed false, however I wish to get it on the file. I additionally assume that something in Grok pertaining to Elon’s curiosity is more likely to be gamed.
[6] Readers, I apologize for not discovering the unique Weber, however I’m tickled to search out this materials on a human assets web site.
APPENDIX A The DOGE Memecoin
Grok is massive mind 🧠 pic.twitter.com/EcA13KTtLq
— Dime (@dimetoshi) January 11, 2025
APPENDIX B “DOGE” in Context
The memecoin, therefore presumably the entity, is pronounced “/doʊdʒ/,” just like the Venetian head of state, and never “doggy” (which is odd, for the reason that avatar of the coin was a Shiba Inu canine). With that license, readers might select to see the next paintings as a development:
Corno ducale, c. 1675-1699, as worn by the Doge of Venice.
Hand-made by the nuns of the Convent of S. Zaccaria.A brand new one was offered to the Doge each Easter Monday, after a procession from San Marco to the convent.
(V&A, London) pic.twitter.com/asgIFrxNgs
— John McCafferty (@jdmccafferty) December 9, 2024
The Doge’s Palace (Le Palais ducal), 1908
//
Extra Monet 👉 https://t.co/IJa53htaI3 pic.twitter.com/hQHX8XQUK5— Claude Monet (@artistmonet) March 11, 2024
2/2 The opposite nice Doge portrait: Leonardo Loredan by Giovanni Bellini, ca. 1501. Simply so . pic.twitter.com/D89Q5qYQSx
— Dr. Peter Paul Rubens (@PP_Rubens) August 27, 2024
The Execution of the Doge Marino Faliero https://t.co/w6VkZFGLCy pic.twitter.com/WJtxcz5mvw
— Eugene Delacroix (@art_delacroix) February 13, 2024
APPENDIX C Grok Transcript on DOGE
Is DOGE (the Division of Governmental Effectivity) a 501(c)(3) non-profit group?
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In keeping with posts on X, it seems that DOGE, the Division of Governmental Effectivity, is just not presently structured as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit group. Latest discussions point out that there was consideration by high officers to include DOGE as an exterior entity or nonprofit, nevertheless it appears unlikely at this level. Subsequently, based mostly on the out there data, DOGE doesn’t maintain the standing of a 501(c)(3) non-profit group.
How is DOGE structured?
15 posts
25 internet pages
The construction of the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE) seems to be fairly fluid and never absolutely formalized as of January 2025. Here is what is thought based mostly on out there data:
Non-Governmental Construction: DOGE is explicitly described as being exterior the official authorities construction. It isn’t an company, fee, or a authorities entity with authorized authority. As a substitute, it operates as an advisory or lobbying group geared toward influencing authorities spending and effectivity.
Management: DOGE is led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, with involvement from different billionaires and tech executives. These people are meant to tackle unofficial roles inside numerous federal companies to push for cost-cutting measures. The recruitment for DOGE positions features a name for volunteers who are usually not federal workers or officers.
Operational Secrecy: There’s an emphasis on secrecy in DOGE’s operations, with a lot of the communication being performed by means of encrypted messaging apps like Sign to stop leaks.
Advisory Position: DOGE’s main operate is to offer suggestions on chopping wasteful spending reasonably than having direct authority over authorities expenditures. This advisory position is geared toward influencing coverage with out the formal powers of presidency companies.
Potential Authorized and Structural Ambiguities: There are issues about how DOGE navigates conflicts of curiosity and transparency legal guidelines just like the Federal Advisory Committee Act, suggesting that it’d attempt to function in a way that avoids these rules, probably by not incorporating as a proper entity.
Public Notion and Critique: Some posts on X recommend skepticism or criticism relating to DOGE’s construction and motives, with labels like “billionaires’ lobbying grift” and issues about privatization motives.
In abstract, DOGE’s construction is casual, advisory, and outdoors conventional authorities frameworks, with a deal with influencing authorities effectivity by means of suggestions reasonably than having authorized authority to enact modifications. Its actual operational particulars stay considerably opaque, reflecting its non-official standing inside the authorities.
Does DOGE have a payroll?
15 posts
25 internet pages
Based mostly on the data out there, the construction of the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE) relating to payroll is ambiguous and has seen some evolution:
Preliminary Statements: Initially, it was said by Elon Musk on X that workers at DOGE wouldn’t be compensated, with the work described as “tedious,” making “numerous enemies,” and having “zero” compensation. This was meant to be a volunteer place for these eager about cost-cutting inside the authorities.
Latest Developments: By January 2025, there are indications that DOGE has began recruiting for full-time, salaried positions. This consists of roles in software program engineering, data safety engineering, HR, IT, and finance. Nonetheless, particulars concerning the variety of these positions or the wage construction stay sparse.
Public Notion: Posts on X mirror a mixture of skepticism, help, and confusion about DOGE’s payroll. Some customers specific doubt about its effectivity as a result of preliminary zero-compensation mannequin, whereas others see the transfer to salaried positions as an indication of DOGE turning into extra structured.
Given this data:
DOGE didn’t have a payroll in its early levels, because it sought volunteers keen to work with out compensation.
As of early January 2025, DOGE is starting to ascertain a payroll for a “very small quantity” of full-time salaried positions, however specifics on how in depth this payroll will likely be or the compensation particulars are usually not clear from the out there sources.
Subsequently, whereas DOGE initially operated and not using a payroll, it seems they’re now transferring in the direction of having one for sure roles, although the scope and particulars are nonetheless not absolutely outlined.
Who indicators DOGE’s payroll checks?
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Share your location for improved accuracy.
Based mostly on the data out there, the specifics relating to who indicators the payroll checks for the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE) are usually not explicitly detailed. Nonetheless, given the context:
DOGE’s Preliminary Construction: Initially, DOGE was described as a volunteer-based group with no payroll, as indicated by statements from Elon Musk the place he talked about that the work can be uncompensated.
Transition to Paid Positions: By January 2025, there are indications that DOGE has moved in the direction of establishing a payroll for a “very small quantity” of salaried positions. This transition means that some type of administrative or monetary administration has been arrange, probably below the steerage or direct involvement of Musk and Ramaswamy, who’re main the group.
Potential Signatories: On condition that DOGE is just not a conventional authorities entity however reasonably an advisory group with influential figures like Musk and Ramaswamy on the helm, it is believable that one or each of those people, or somebody instantly appointed by them, would have the authority to signal payroll checks. Nonetheless, that is speculative based mostly on the dearth of direct data.
Public Hypothesis: Posts on X specific a mixture of curiosity and skepticism concerning the operational particulars of DOGE, together with its monetary administration, however there is not any particular point out of who indicators the payroll checks.
From this, we are able to infer:
No definitive reply exists within the public area about who precisely indicators DOGE’s payroll checks.
The most definitely situation is that it will be somebody with vital authority inside DOGE, probably Musk or Ramaswamy themselves or an appointed monetary officer, given their management roles and the character of DOGE as an exterior advisory physique.
Subsequently, with out specific affirmation, the identification of who indicators DOGE’s payroll checks stays undetermined from the out there data.
Who approved DOGE to make use of SpaceX workplace house? If there’s a rental settlement, who signed it on DOGE’s behalf?
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The authorization for DOGE to make use of SpaceX workplace house will be inferred from the context:
Implicit Authorization: Elon Musk, being the CEO of SpaceX and a co-leader of DOGE alongside Vivek Ramaswamy, would possible have the authority to resolve on using SpaceX’s workplace house for DOGE. Given his twin roles, he might authorize this use with out formal agreements.
Rental Settlement: There isn’t any specific point out of a proper rental settlement within the out there sources. Nonetheless, if one exists:
Signatory on Behalf of DOGE: Since DOGE is led by Musk and Ramaswamy, both of them can be essentially the most possible signatories on any potential rental settlement. Given Musk’s possession of SpaceX and his position in DOGE, he can be the logical option to signal on behalf of DOGE if a proper settlement had been obligatory.
In conclusion:
Authorization: Elon Musk, as a consequence of his roles in each organizations.
Signatory on DOGE’s Behalf: If a proper settlement exists, it will most definitely be signed by Elon Musk, however there is not any direct proof of such an settlement within the offered data.
Is DOGE topic to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA)
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Based mostly on the out there data, the Division of Authorities Effectivity (DOGE), as structured, is certainly topic to the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA). Here is how this conclusion is reached:
Definition and Standards: FACA applies to any “committee, board, fee, council, convention, panel, activity pressure, or different related group” that features not less than one non-governmental member, established or utilized to offer recommendation or suggestions to the President or a number of companies or officers of the Federal Authorities. DOGE matches this description as it’s an advisory physique led by non-federal members (Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy) aiming to offer suggestions on authorities effectivity, spending, and operations.
Authorized Precedents and Professional Opinions: Varied sources and specialists, together with Jason Arnold, an affiliate professor of political science, and authorized analyses from organizations like Public Citizen, have indicated that DOGE’s operations align with the necessities of FACA. They argue that DOGE, although not a proper authorities division, features as an advisory committee which, below FACA, should adhere to transparency, public involvement, and reporting necessities.
Public Statements and Actions: Elon Musk has said on X that DOGE’s actions can be “most clear,” which aligns with FACA’s necessities for transparency. Nonetheless, there are additionally indications that DOGE may try to function in ways in which may very well be seen as avoiding some FACA obligations, like by functioning informally or emphasizing particular person reasonably than collective recommendation. Regardless of these techniques, if DOGE meets the factors for what constitutes a Federal Advisory Committee, it will nonetheless be topic to FACA.
Authorized Challenges and Compliance: Historic examples and authorized opinions recommend that even when an entity like DOGE tries to bypass FACA by not formally declaring itself as an advisory committee, courts can nonetheless rule that it should adjust to FACA if its operations resemble these of a committee established to advise the federal government.
In conclusion, given the character of DOGE’s operations, its objective, and its management by non-federal members to offer recommendation to the federal authorities, it’s topic to the Federal Advisory Committee Act. The precise compliance is likely to be topic to authorized scrutiny, however the core actions of DOGE as described fall inside FACA’s jurisdiction.